January 15, 2011
Return of the Microdermal
Some of you may have been expecting a blog about metal sensitivities as they relate to body piercing. That blog is coming soon, we promise. Some recent changes to some Minneapolis regulations has prompted us to make this our newest blog.
Hopefully you’ll find this informative as well.
Return of the What?
Microdermals (also know as dermal anchors and single-point surface piercings) have been around for about 5 years. So in the realm of all things body piercing, they are still pretty new. However, in that short period of time they have become quite popular, so chances are good you’ve seen one even if you didn’t realize you had. If you’ve ever seen a piercing that is a single ball or gem inserted in a flat area of someone’s skin, then you have seen a microdermal.
Traditional surface piercings (done with surface bars) will always have two balls/gems/ends that are connected by a bar that runs underneath the skin.
Because microdermals don’t have to be connected by a long bar running under the skin, there are certain areas where they may have a better success rate than traditional surface piercings. In addition, because microdermal piercings can be done as singles they open up the possibilities from a design/pattern point of view.
How Does That Thing Stay In?
If you’re asking yourself that very question, don’t worry…you aren’t alone.
It is often helpful to think of microdermal jewelry as a foot and leg combo. Instead of making you try to make sense of a wordy description…a picture…a thousand words and all that.
The brown part is one solid piece of titanium. We only use titanium microdermals as titanium provides the greatest amount of biocompatibility, making the piercing as body-friendly as possible and nearly eliminating the risk of allergic reaction, even in people who are highly-sensitive to metals.
Think of the post that sticks up (called the uplift) as your leg and the plate it is attached to as your foot. The end with no hole is called the heel and the end with the large hole is called the toe. There are a variety of different hole styles and combinations available from different companies. How much of a difference the various styles make is still up for debate, but we have had really good success with this style. In addition to the fact that we like the design of the anchor, the company who makes the jewelry, Anatometal, Inc., makes the highest-quality body jewelry in the world, hands down. We think our clients deserve the best quality available.
The gem, or whatever you choose to wear, simply unscrews from the small post.
Okay, So How Does That Thing Go In?
Again, a very common question. The answer is probably a little more simple than you might expect. Basically, a hole is made in the skin with a piercing needle. This happens very quickly and doesn’t typically hurt anymore than a standard piercing. Then, the toe end of the anchor is used for leverage and the plate is essentially “popped” into the hole. Once inserted, the plate sits under the skin and the top of the uplift sits flush with the skin or perhaps sticks out very slightly.
Most of the time this happens quickly and you feel only pressure. In some instances the jewelry might need to be removed momentarily and then re-inserted so that it sits flush with the skin. While everyone is different, most people compare getting a microdermal to getting any other piercing.
So, Why Did You Stop Doing Microdermals?
We performed microdermal piercings for about 3 years and we stopped doing them approximately two years ago. We quit doing them because the city of Minneapolis has had regulations for many years against performing “implants”. While microdermals weren’t even around at the time they made implants illegal, the city decided to classify microdermals as implants because the piercing has only a single entrance/exit point. In addition to Minneapolis, Hennepin County enacted the same ban on microdermals. So, the powers-that-be didn’t decide that microdermals were unsafe to do or anything like that…they simply got banned because of a definition/syntax issue.
While a number of studios in the city/county continued to do them illegally, we opted (as always) to put ethics and professionalism first, and we immediately ceased doing them. We believe it is important to represent the body piercing profession as just that…a profession that deserves to be respected and taken seriously. Piercers/studios who choose to do procedures that are illegal because they think the procedure is “cool” or because they disagree with the regulation or because they won’t make as much money if they stop doing it, are acting selfishly, irresponsibly and unprofessionally. They run the risk of doing damage to our entire profession for their own personal gain.
Okay, we’ll get off the soapbox now.
Then Why Did You Start Doing Them Again?
We had been working with the Minneapolis Health Department for some time to find a solution that would allow us to start doing microdermals again. Through no fault of theirs, we weren’t making much progress. Fortunately, and rather coincidentally, it was the State of Minnesota that “came to the rescue”. Starting January 1, 2011, the State of Minnesota began licensing piercers and tattoo artists–we had been licensed for nearly 10 years previously by the city of Minneapolis. This change resulted in the city re-writing their regulations. In doing so, they brought their regulations in-line with the State’s regulations. Since the Sate didn’t have a ban on microdermals, the city followed suit and, as of today (Jan 11, 2011), we can now do microdermals again.
Nice!
What Do I Need to Know About Microdermals?
Earlier we touched on some of the advantage of microdermals: they work better in certain areas than traditional surface piercings and they open up the possibility for interesting design concepts/aesthetics. And let’s face it…they just look good!
As with any piercing, it’s important to know what you are getting in to before you dive right in. Unfortunately, there seems to be some bad information out there about microdermal piercings. One of the biggest misconception is that they are “problem free”. Many people seem to be under the impression that you put them and “Ta Dah!”, they will simply heal perfectly, never give you a bit of trouble and you’ll be able to keep it for as long as you want. It would be nice if that were always the truth with microdermals, but it’s simply not. Microdermals are prone to many of the same issues as traditional piercings.
While microdermals can offer some advantages over traditional surface piercings, the reality is that they are still surface piercings. As such, they can still migrate or be rejected just like a standard surface piercing. They are less likely to reject than a standard surface piercing in certain areas such as the hips, wrists/arms, backs and clavicles (collarbones), but rejection is always a possibility with microdermals, just as it is with any piercing. If you’re not familiar with “rejection”, it simply means that your body pushes the jewelry towards the surface of the skin until, if you don’t take it out, it will eventually get pushed all the way out of your skin.
Infection is a possibility, just like with any other piercing. As with standard piercings, true infections are pretty uncommon and they most commonly occur as a result of the piercing getting touched with dirty hands. It’s important that you don’t touch your microdermal piercing unless you wash your hands first. It’s also very important that you touch your piercing as little as possible, even if your hands are cleaning. Touching the piercing, no matter how gently, results in irritation which will prolong the healing and will increase the likelihood of rejection.
If the piercing rejects, or has to be removed for some reason, there will be some scarring. The scarring from a microdermal doesn’t tend to be much (if any) worse than the scarring you would get from a standard piercing. There is no way to know ahead of time exactly how much scarring there will be, as it will depend upon how well-healed the piercing is when it”s removed and how much scar tissue each person’s body tends to create. However, it is important to realize that there will be some scarring.
Another important factor to think about when considering a microdermal is that they may need to be removed for a variety of medical procedures such x-rays, CT scans, MRI’s and surgery. A microdermal will show up in the images those tests produce, potentially interfering with diagnosis. If you have to undergo these sorts of procedures with some regularity, a microdermal may not make a lot of sense. Unfortunately, there are no “retainers” that can be put in place of the piercing for medical testing, like there are for more traditional piercings.
While most people probably don’t have to plan for regular medical testing, that doesn’t mean a microdermal can’t be an issue. In the case of an accident or emergency medical testing or surgery, a microdermal could potentially interfere with getting medical treatment quickly. While the same can be said of any piercing, the jewelry used in standard body piercing is much easier to remove if necessary. In addition, the relative newness of microdermals means that many EMT’s, nurses and doctors aren’t as likely to be familiar with what they are or how to remove them.
In our experience, it seems that most people are able to keep their microdermal piercings nice and happy for about 2 years. After that, they often begin to flare up off-and-on and start to become problematic. Having said that, we know people who have had their micordermal peircings for almost 5 years, which is about when microdermals made their first appearance in the piercing world. In some cses, microdermals become irritated and unhappy sooner than 2 years. Much of it depends upon the care they receive, how much abuse/irritation they get while they are healing, the location of the piercing and the lifestyle of the wearer.
Speaking of Removal
So, once you have a microdermal, what happens if you want, or need, to remove it? As we mentioned, microdermals cannot be removed as easily as most other piercings. There is a common misconception they have to be removed surgically, which is definitely not true. Microdermals can be removed with relative ease by an experienced piercer. The exact process used for removal will vary depending upon the health of the microdermal, each person’s skin and the tools available to the piercer. Most often microdermals can be removed using a little tissue manipulation and some gentle pressure. In other cases, a piercing needle may need to be utilized to help with the removal. Even if this is the case, the removal is typically not any worse than having the piercing done in the first place.
If you need to have a microdermal removed, we do encourage you to consult with an experienced piercer if time permits. While doctors are certainly capable of removing them, in our experience they often over-complicate the removal which can result in unnecessary trauma and scarring. Obviously if the piercing needs to be removed due to a medical emergency it’s best to let a doctor remove the jewelry. We are always available to consult with doctors and other medfcal professionals about any piercing, so please don’t hesitate to have your doctor or nurse contact us if the have questions.
Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes
People often want to know how soon they can change the top/end of their microdermal. As with many things piercing-related, piercers have different opinions on how long to wait. In general, we think that patience produces better results. Because of the nature of microdermals, it is easy to irritate them when changing the ends. Obviously, the newer the piercing is, the easier it can be irritated.
We typically suggest waiting 2-3 months before changing the end, depending of course, on how well the piercing is doing. Some may be ready to change before then and some may need to wait even longer. We get folks in the studio telling us they were told by their piercer to change the jewelry after 2 or 3 weeks. We think this is a very bad idea. If jewelry is chosen appropriately to begin with, there should be no need to change the jewelry that soon. Doing so is just asking for a bunch of problems that can easily be avoided by waiting a little longer. In fact, if an appropriately-sized, good-quality piece of jewelry is used to begin with, the end doesn’t ever have to be changed….except of course for a different look. Everybody loves new jewelry!
Either In or Out
Unlike standard piercings, once a healed microdermal is removed, it cannot simply be re-inserted with good results. While some piercers will remove a microdermal that is starting to reject and immediately put it back in (called, re-seating), we have found that this rarely works well in the long-term. Most of the time it simply results in the microdermal starting to reject again after a short period of time. So, if a microdermal is removed, the best option is to let the area heal and then have the piercing re-done. Keep in mind, that due to the scar tissue that forms as part of any healing piercing, putting the microdermal back in the exact same spot may not be the best choice. The scar tissue can often keep the foot of the microdermal from sitting in the skin like it needs to.
So There You Have It
We’ve covered a lot of information here, and if you’ve made it all the way to the end we applaud you for sticking with it. Nice work!
Some people will read the information about the “cons” of micordermals and may think that we don’t like them. That isn’t the case at all. We think microdermals can be a great option on certain parts of the body. We like the aesthetic options they provide and there is some really amazing jewelry available for them. We have done a lot of them and most of the time people are very happy with their microdermal for a long, long time.
We feel it’s important that our clients have as much information as possible when considering getting any piercing, especially microdermals. They are different than standard piercing and have some unique characteristics that need to be understood before rushing in to them. We believe that if our clients have a good understanding of what to expect before hand, they will have piercings that heal faster, look great and which they can enjoy for years to come.
As always, our piercers are available for consultations and to answer your questions about anything piercing-related. There is never a charge for consultations or check-ups.
UPDATE: November 2011
We’ve gotten a lot of comments from people expressing that they are “scared” or “concerned” about their microdermal piercing(s) after reading our blog. So, we wanted to take a moment to try and clarify some of what we said in the original blog.
It wasn’t our intention to make anyone overly worried that their microdermal might reject. As we mentioned, there are many people who have had their microdermal piercings for more than 5 years. They can be a very viable long-term piercing for a lot of people. However, because they are a piercing, and especially because they are a form of surface piercing, problematic healing and/or rejection is always a possibility. Other than taking good care of the piercing and being as careful as you can with it and keeping your hands off of it, there isn’t much else you can to do prevent rejection. If the piercing gets overly traumatized or your body simply decides it doesn’t like it, rejection can happen.
But, there is no reason to spend a lot of time worrying about it, because there isn’t anything you can do to prevent it. Instead, just relax, go have some fun and enjoy having the piercing for however long you end up having it; whether it’s 6 months or 10 years.
F.A.Q.
We thought we’d answer a few questions/concerns that we’ve been hearing frequently, so hopefully you can have the information faster and not have to wait on us to reply.
If I’ve had success healing other piercings does that mean that my microdermal piercing will heal fine?
While successfully healing other piercings is definitely a good sign your body is able to heal itself, it’s also no guarantee that you’ll be successful with a microdermal piercing. As we’ve mentioned, microdermal piercings are a form of surface piercing, and as such, are more prone to rejection than more traditional piercings. The best things you can to do reduce the likelihood of rejection are KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OF IT, take appropriate care of it, be careful to not abuse it, get plenty of rest, eat a healthy diet and KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OF IT!.
What should I do if I just snagged my microdermal piercing or bumped it really hard
If you bumped it or snagged it on something that was dirty or unclean, it’s a good idea to VERY GENTLY wash the area with a very mild soap; preferably not an antic-bacterial soap. Be sure to rinse the area really well and dry it. Then, gently apply an ice/cold pack to the area to help reduce swelling and irritation. Be sure to put something clean (sterilize gauze is great, a clean paper towel will do in a pinch) between the cold pack and your piercing. Also, try to use the ice pack in such a way that it doesn’t put a of pressure on the piercing.
I’ve had my microdermal for a while now and it doesn’t sit as flush to the skin as it used to. Should I be worried?
The answer to this question is: maybe. Now, many microdermal piercings appear to sit very flush to the skin when they are first done because their is swelling in the area which causes the tissue to puff up a bit, making it look like the jewelry is sitting flush with the skin. Ideally, that is how a microdermal should fit. But, if isn’t sitting flush when it’s put in, once some of the swelling goes away, you may see a small bit of the post or it may appear a bit raised.
In some cases, microdermal piercings do move towards the surface of the skin over time. In many cases, they move a bit and then stop and are completely fine for the rest of the life of the piercing. In other cases, they continue to move toward the surface of the skin until they reach a point where they should be removed. As we’ve said before, you have a very limited amount of control over whether the piercing migrates/rejects. So, if this is happening with your piercing, it’s really a “wait and see” situation. But, if there is no redness, soreness or other signs of irritation to go along with a slightly raised microdermal piercing, chances are good there isn’t anything to be concerned about.
How long do I have to wait until I change the top on my microdermal?
Different piercers will have different opinions on this, but we think that you should wait an absolute minimum of 2 months before changing the top, and it’s very likely that you will need to wait longer.
The challenge with changing microdermals is that you have to be able to hold/stabilize the base that is in the skin. This can be difficult to do, even with the right equipment. As a result, it’s very easy to irritate a microdermal piercing that isn’t well-healed. That irritation can cause swelling and increases the chance of taking a happy piercing and making it unhappy. The older the piercing is, the less easily it will be irritated when changing the end. That’s why it’s better to wait longer before changing the top.
Hopefully these help answers a few common questions. As always, feel free to post your specific question in the comments and we’ll do our best to answer it as quickly as we can.







Kristine Campbell said,
January 15, 2011 @ 2:56 pm
Thanks for the article! When I had microdermals in my nape, done at Saint Sabrina’s a couple years ago, the short end of the anchor would tend to pop out after a few weeks. Do you have any options to avoid that issue, such as jewelry that has a hole on both the short and long ends of the anchor? I really want to give it another try, but don’t want to use the same jewelry, which will not give me better results. Thanks for all that you do!
Cindy Frolund said,
January 15, 2011 @ 4:00 pm
Awesome, glad you are able to do microdermals again! I have wanted to get some for a long time, but I have to get an MRI every year. I am wondering if it’s possible to get the jewelry in another material that wouldn’t need to be removed for the MRI? I think that would be dope….
saintsabrinas said,
January 16, 2011 @ 11:02 am
Kristine: It sounds like you may have been dealing with more of a placement/installation issue. If the short end was coming out within a couple of weeks, having holes in the short end wouldn’t make much difference as that wouldn’t typically be enough time for any substantial tissue to grow in to the hole.
The thickness and toughness of the tissue in the nape of the neck actually makes it one of the harder areas to do microdermals and for them to succeed long-term. Ironically, when it comes to regular surface piercings, napes tend to have the highest success rate.
If you wanted to re-do those piercings and wanted to try jewelry with a hole in the short side, we can definitely do that. We would just need to order it, which takes about a week. However, you may well find that it doesn’t produce any better results.
Also, since you’ve had that area done before putting them back in the same spot(s) may result in the issues from scar tissue that we mentioned in the article.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 16, 2011 @ 11:18 am
Cindy: There are plastic microdermals available. The material they are made of has good biocompatibility. The problem with them is that the threads do not hold up well over time. Essentially the threads can break pretty easily when changing the ends. If this happens you run the risk of getting little bits of plastic floating around in your skin and/or you end up with broken jewelry that is very difficult to get the jewelry out of your body.
So while they are a good idea from and MRI perspective, they just haven’t proven to be al that practical at this point in time.
Lindsay Hearts said,
January 27, 2011 @ 6:35 pm
this blog is amazing!!!!! wow! So impressed!!
starz said,
March 25, 2011 @ 11:24 pm
Cindy, you could just use titanium jewelery for your piercing if you need to get MRI’s annually. i’ve read many reviews of that being your safest bet..
love this blog! i want to get my hip dermals done but i can’t really find a lot of convincing stories that they won’t be a total pain… my piercings normally heal really well, but still kind of nervous… especially with hip placement and movements.
wouldn’t want to take it out a few months later…
Alix said,
March 26, 2011 @ 1:28 pm
In regards to MRI’s. Titanium IS safe for MRI’s and other scans. The only reason they would be a problem is if the image needs to be done in the area of the piercing.
My sternum is wired together with titanium and it has never been a problem for imaging.
Just wanted to share my experience so others wouldn’t feel deterred from getting the piercings they want!
Saint Sabrina's said,
March 26, 2011 @ 2:42 pm
The other thing to keep in mind, is that even thought titanium may be just fine in an MRI, that doesn’t mean that the hospital/clinic or the technician will necessarily take your word for it and let you have the procedure. They might…but those are very expensive pieces of equipment, and they may not want to take a risk damaging the machine, or you, for something that is “optional”, as opposed to some sort of medical implant.
Not saying that’s the right approach, but it’s the standpoint that many clinics take when it comes to this sort of thing.
Tania said,
March 27, 2011 @ 8:15 pm
This is awesome. Have you done any microdermals on back dimples yet? I am considering getting those done
ps. I got a cleavage surface bar done at your place, and I’ve been getting great compliments about it. Nate did a great job!
Jo said,
March 29, 2011 @ 9:46 am
Hi,
I have 12 microdermals, 6 on my clavicles and 6 on my hips. I’ve had them for 6 weeks. My question is, a few on my clavices are a little high, I can see the leg. Is this normal? Is it to late to have them re-set? I don’t want to take the chance of severing any tissue already attached to the feet. They are healthy and problem free, so again, I don’t want to upset them. Just wanted your opinion.
Thanks!!
Saint Sabrina's said,
March 29, 2011 @ 3:57 pm
Tania: We have done back dimple microdermals. They usually require a microdermal with a slightly longer uplift, to ensure they don’t embed, but we stock the longer length regularly.
Glad to hear that the surface bar is doing well!
Saint Sabrina's said,
March 29, 2011 @ 4:00 pm
Jo: It’s possible that the microdermal isn’t sitting deep enough. It would be impossible to say without seeing. In the clavicle area, they can sometimes just sit a bit more shallow. It depends a lot one how/where they were place din relation to the clavicles.
If you think you may need to have them re-done, doing some sooner than later is probably best. Whether simply re-setting them or having fully re-done is something you would need to discuss with your piercer. Re-setting often doesn’t have good long-term success.
ckbmcc said,
April 14, 2011 @ 8:51 pm
Had a normal done about 2 months ago under my eye now all of a sudden its swollen and really red around it with drainage and swelling leading to underneath my eye what do u do and what’s the best medicine
ckbmcc said,
April 14, 2011 @ 8:52 pm
Meant to spell
ckbmcc said,
April 14, 2011 @ 8:53 pm
Meant to spell dermal
Saint Sabrina's said,
April 16, 2011 @ 10:00 am
It’s hard to make much of a suggestion without seeing the piercing. Most likely, you bumped it or slept on it funny or something and it is simply irritated. If that’s the case, the thing that will make the biggest difference is time…time for the irritation to go away. There probably isn’t much else you can do to it if that is what’s going on.
While not likely, an infection is always a possibility. In that case, a prescription anti-biotic from a doctor is usually going to be best. But again, without seeing it, it’s hard to know which of those things is going on.
Hope this helps at least a little.
jacqueline cobb said,
April 17, 2011 @ 9:35 pm
i have a star on my face with a dermal in the middle had it for a year now its trying to reject which sucks cause of my star tattoo
ckbmcc said,
April 25, 2011 @ 7:31 pm
It’s been 4 months since I got a dermal under my eye now the post is sticking out far and now red and swollen with plus coming out this is the second time in 2 weks should I have it removed or ? Help
Lindsey said,
May 4, 2011 @ 5:42 pm
I have had 2 regualr navel piercings done, approximately 9 years apart. They both rejected at about the same time, about 6 months. The first one I didn’t take great care of, the second I followed directions to a T. I’m considering microdermal of my navel to enhance a tattoo I plan to be getting shortly. However, if I’ve rejected other standard piercings I’m wondering what my chances of holding on to a microdermal would be. I know there are never any guarantees, but would this be a good option or would I likely reject in a matter of months again?
Saint Sabrina's said,
May 5, 2011 @ 2:57 pm
Sorry we missed this…It sounds like it might be time to take it out. Without seeing it, it’s hard to say for sure…but if it’s acting up that much, and you can see the post a lot, removing it is probably your best option.
Saint Sabrina's said,
May 5, 2011 @ 3:34 pm
Hey Lindsey…
Not having success with some navel piercings doesn’t necessarily mean you won’t have success with a microdermal. For navel piercings to be successful, there are a lot of factors that come in to play. One of the biggest factors is anatomy. Not every navel is of a good shape to be pierced. If that’s the case, it often doesn’t matter how well you take care of the piercing…it may just be destined to not work out.
As we mentioned in this article, microdermals can also reject.
Kayla said,
May 30, 2011 @ 12:09 pm
I have been wanting microdermals for over a year now. I want to get ten done on my hip in the shape of a star. I’ve never been pierced before other than my ears so I’m not quite sure how my body will react. My question is should I get them done all at once or do them separately? Also, do the piercings get hot when your out in the sun for long lengths of time?
Saint Sabrina's said,
May 31, 2011 @ 5:14 pm
Hi Kayla….
When doing patterns, depending upon the pattern, it is sometimes best to do them all at once to make sure the pattern is correct, while other times, it doesn’t really matter in terms of getting the pattern right. Regardless of the pattern, doing anywhere from one to only a few microdermals in one sitting is obviously going to be easier on your body, and easier to heal, than doing a lot in one sitting.
If you’ve never had any other piercings at all, let alone a microdermal, I personally (and none of our other piercers either) wouldn’t be willing to do 10 microdermals on you in one sitting. You need to have some idea of how your body reacts to piercings before jumping in to a project like that.
I would strongly suggest getting one or two microdermals done and see how that goes for you. You may find that you don’t like the healing timing and caring for the piercings. Better to find that with only one or two, as opposed to sitting through the discomfort of 10 of them, not to mention the money it will cost.
Another thing to consider, when doing patterns, is how you’re going to feel about it if one, or several (but not all) of them work out. Are you going to be okay with a star pattern that is missing 2 or 3 out of the 10? Some people would be, some people won’t.
The jewelry/piercings should not get hot when you are out in the sun.
Best of luck with whatever you decide!
Stefany said,
June 29, 2011 @ 3:10 pm
I was wondering how Different it is to have macrodermals on your hips rather than your lower back because the skin above your hips don’t have the bone support like your back dimples? Would your hips reject faster than your back? Or is it the same effect?
Saint Sabrina's said,
June 29, 2011 @ 3:35 pm
While the skin in those area is definitely different in terms of thickness, the success rate, and issues that people tend to have with microdermals in those areas, are very similar. Much of it has to do with placement. With any type of surface piercing, traditional or micordermal, it’s important to put the piercing where there is as little movement as possible.
One thing that likely would be different between the two areas is the length of the post/rise on the jewelry. Since the skin on the lower back is thicker, we typically use microdermal jewelry with a slightly longer post, compared to what we use on hip microdermals. Obviously, each person is different, so that is just a rule-of-thumb and not always the case.
Hope that helps!
Raven said,
June 30, 2011 @ 3:21 pm
I absolutely love this, a lot of good information which I’ve been searching for a while to find. If I had anyone else thinking about getting a microdermal I would def guide them here.
I have a quick question though, I’m thinking about getting micro dermals on my lower back and though I generally wear low rise jeans and such that it wouldn’t be a problem after healing if I need to put on slacks would it rub against them to much and cause issues? As long as they don’t rest directly on top of the dermals obviously. Right now the pair that I have goes up to my waist
Erin said,
July 20, 2011 @ 5:56 pm
I’m really wanting one on each back dimple! I’m not too excited about the fact that they don’t last long though. Is it possible for them to last “forever” or however long I want them? I know part of it has to do with rejection or it eventually coming out, but I have a lot of piercings on my ears and my bellybutton done with no problems. So do they for sure eventually come out or is it possible for them to be permanent?
Evelyn said,
July 21, 2011 @ 3:01 pm
I have been thinking about getting a dermal on my ankle..do u think thats a bad place to put it at or would it be better on my wrist?
Saint Sabrina's said,
July 22, 2011 @ 10:06 am
Erin:
It is possible to have micordermals “forever” or at least as long as you want them. There are many people who have microdermals that are 5-6 years old. The point we were trying to make is that there is no guarantee that you will be able to keep them as long as you want. Now that they have been around for a while, what we are seeing is that for many people, after about 1-1/2 to 2 years, they start to act up and either eventually reject or have to be removed.
Again, this isn’t the case for everyone, but it’s a possibility. So, if you decide to get them done, you need to go in to it being fully-aware of that possibility.
The fact that you have healed other piercings successfully is good, but unfortunately, it doesn’t really tell you much about how your body will react to a microdermal piercing. They are completely unique and can really only be compared to surface piercings, and even then, they are somewhat different.
Best of luck if you decide to get your micordermals done!
Saint Sabrina's said,
July 22, 2011 @ 10:09 am
Evelyn:
The long-term success of a microdermal on your ankle is probably unlikely. Given the amount of movement in that area, and the fact that feet/ankles/legs get hit on stuff all the time, it’s very likely the piercing wouldn’t heal well and would reject fairly quickly.
Putting it on your wrist is probably a better option, but just remember that wrists move a lot and get bumped around a lot too.
Best of luck!
Michelle said,
July 23, 2011 @ 9:39 pm
I have a microdermal that is placed near my eye and last night I noticed it was a bit infected and as I was trying to clean it the short end of the anchor popped out a little. Does that mean the anchor is just sitting in my skin pocket and my piercing is no longer attached in my skin? It still stays in my face but I am worried and I don’t want to take it out!! Also it is an 18 gauge (4 months old) so I know it is easier for the piercing to come out…help please!!!
ellyn said,
July 24, 2011 @ 11:40 am
Micro on my ring finger..good er bad idea?
Kiersten said,
July 25, 2011 @ 4:18 pm
I got microdermals in my back dimples about two weeks ago and haven’t seemed to have any unusual redness or swelling but I’ve recently (the past 2 days) been having extreme abdominal pain that Is similar to what I experienced when my belly button got infected. I was wondering if an inward traveling infection in my back could happen so quickly and cause stomach pain…? Thanks
Saint Sabrina's said,
July 28, 2011 @ 7:17 pm
Michelle:
Chances are you need to have the anchor removed. Once one side pops out, it is really only a matter of time before you snag it and it comes out or your body pushes it the rest of the way out. Eseentially your bod has rejected the piercing…unless you snagged it on something that caused it to get pulled out. It’s very easy to dislodge an anchor when it’s only 18 gauge. Those are nice from the stand point that they can be put in by making a smaller hole and they often leave less scarring when removed…but the downside is that they are easy to pull/knock out.
Saint Sabrina's said,
July 28, 2011 @ 7:21 pm
Ellyn:
Short answer: Bad idea.
Long answer: Bad idea. While finger microdermals look cool, they are very rarely long-term. The fact that your hands are constantly touching dirty stuff makes the likelihood of an actual infection pretty high. This is going to make the piercing very unhappy and if you get a true infection (not just irritation) you would end up having to remove it. Also, because your hands are constantly touching and bumping in to stuff. they have a very high chance of rejection; they simply can’t handle that kind of constant abuse. Put your hand through your shirt sleeve: probably gonna snag. Put your hand in your pocket: probably going to snag. Put your hand in a purse or bag: probabl gonna snag or get knocked around. You get the idea.
If you are dead-set on doing one, we would strongly suggest starting it off with a flat disk. While gems and such look really cool, anything that sticks up from the skin is going to be more likely to get snagged If it’s something you want to have any chance of healing, you need to reduce the irritation it takes while healing as much as possible. If you do managed to heal it, changing to a gem later on shouldn’t be a problems.
Saint Sabrina's said,
July 28, 2011 @ 7:24 pm
Kiersten
While nothing is impossible, I would be VERY surprised if these two things were related. It would be almost unheard of for you to have some sort of internal infection that wouldn’t show any symptoms (redness, pain, swelling, discharge) at the piercing site. If you were to get some sort of infection that traveled inward, chances are you would have had symptoms sooner than 2 weeks after the piercings.
Again, anything is possible, but it doesn’t seem likely. We would love t hear what the problem ended up being if it continues, especially if it was related to the piercing.
Best of luck.
Devon said,
August 5, 2011 @ 1:38 pm
I just got a microdermal on my wrist and I love it! I was going to get a surface bar but the guy talked me Into a dermal anyways when I was getting it I asked if you needed surgery or anything to remove it he said no nothing bad now I’m tripping cuz I callEd a few places and asked and they said they use a needle nd a scalpel…. Is it going to hurt really bad? And wouldn’t it be better to go to the doctor because they can give me something for pain? How bad is the removal really? And is there any info you can give me about the removal process?
Thanks
Ohniee said,
August 8, 2011 @ 2:22 pm
how long to wait to repierce a dermal that has been snatched out ?
Saint Sabrina's said,
August 10, 2011 @ 9:54 am
Exactly how microdermals are removed depends upon how well-anchored it is when it is removed. This is going to vary from person-to-person. The majority of microdermals we remove are done without using a needle or anything sharp. A little tissue manipulation and some pulling and they will usually come out. Occasionally we might have to use the edge of a needle to release some tissue from the microdermal. That is easy, fast and not very overly-painful.
Honestly…going to a doctor probably isn’t best because they don’t have any experience removing them. In our experience, when it comes to removing piercing jewelry, doctors very often over-complicate things and end up making much large cuts than need to be made, which results in more scarring and often more pain. Also, why a doctor would be able to inject an anesthetic, that is going to hurt…having a needle put in your skin plus having the medicine pushed in. And as we said, most of the time, no cut is required.
When/if you need to have your microdermal removed, we really would suggest going to an experienced piercer.
Saint Sabrina's said,
August 10, 2011 @ 9:56 am
You probably want to wait at least 2 months…longer may be better depending upon how much scar tissue is in the area.
Keep in mind that microdermals done in the exact same place as before, very often don’t work out as well the second time around. There is always going to be at least a little bit of scar tissue from the previous one. This scar tissue tends to put pressure on the base of the microdermal, often causing it to not sit flush and/or making it easier for your body to reject it.
That’s not to say they don’t ever work out…but they do tend to be much less likely to be successful if you put them in the exact same location. So, if you have the option of moving it and still maintaining the aesthetic you want, that’s probably your best option.
Megan said,
August 13, 2011 @ 7:35 am
I want to get collarbone dermals but im afraid of several things. Im a stocker and could I get pierced the same day I work or even day before? Am I supposed to restrict arm movements? Will I still be able to move freely and lay on my arm at night, like arm under my head, making a crease on the piercing? Is there a higy rejection rate for this particular area? Ive seen the guy I want to go to and he doesnt pinch the skin while piercing, does it matter?
Andrea said,
August 15, 2011 @ 10:17 pm
Heyy well I’m getting dermals but Ive been going crazy trying to figure which type of metal is the best for a dermal…titanium or surgical steel..honestly which one has a better chance of not rejecting or are they going to react pretty much the same…this will help me soooo much!! =]
Natasha said,
August 18, 2011 @ 12:49 am
Hey I just got 2 lower back microdermals done on the 27th of july….so like three weeks roughly. they arent sore and im darker skinned so i dont think their red (lol) but my right one seems to be embedded into my back on the longer side of the anchor. I must say that piercing took about 15 minutes to get in. for some reason THEY (yes they. i needed 2 piercers to get it in) had to keep taking it out and re piercing it. Now im sure its in too deep on one side and its a little more tender than my left one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pghMT54n_b4). This is the video of the first piercer trying to get it in and she just couldnt and then had to turn the job over to someone else. can you plz tell me what was going on, what went wrong and why my piercing seems crooked
Saint Sabrina's said,
August 18, 2011 @ 11:01 am
Any piercing, whether a microdermal or a more traditional piercing, will have a harder time healing if there is a lot of movement/friction/irritation while it is healing. While you won’t necessarily have to restrict your arm movements, a lot of movement with a fresh microdermal isn’t going to be the best thing for it. Ideally, you should give it a day or two before you launch back in to a job that requires a lot of arm movement.
As for the sleeping thing, it’s something worth mentioning to your piercer if you sleep with a very specific arm position. That way they can check the placement to try and minimize the amount of pressure and irritation that might happen while you’re sleeping.
As for pinching up the skin or not…it doesn’t really matter that much, as long as the piercer is getting good results.
Best of luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
August 18, 2011 @ 11:03 am
Most microdermals these days are made from titanium, and it’s really the best choice. While an implant-grade stainless steel isn’t bad, you’re just less likely to have issues with a titanium microdermal.
Dawn said,
August 20, 2011 @ 5:35 pm
I’ve been searching every where online and there is such varying information I couldn’t make heads or tails of it but you are the first that sounds like they know what they are talking about!
Thanks for all the info.
My question is aftercare. Salt soak, saline, antibacterial spray, soap and water, no water… I’ve heard definitely do each and definitely don’t do each! lol What is the best aftercare for two microdermals near the eyes?
Saint Sabrina's said,
August 25, 2011 @ 2:54 pm
Hi Dawn,
Sadly, there is a lot of information out there about piercing, and much of it is wrong and/or contradictory. Thanks for the kinds words. We’ll do our best to tell you what we know to be true and hopefully you’ll find it helpful.
Aftercare is one of those areas where there is a lot of variation for aftercare. The number one thing to remember when it comes to aftercare is this: the only thing that is going to heal your piercing is your body. Your body is the only thing able to reform the cells and the tissue that is needed to heal the piercing. There are no magic sauces or special goops you can put it on that will heal the piercing. Your body has to do it.
Now, the majority of the things that people put on piercings actually cause your body to take longer to heal because they interfere with your natural healing process. Things like soaps, antibacterial sprays, rubbing alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, antibiotic ointments. Basically anything that is a chemical will interfere with what your body is already trying to do. So, when you use soaps or other chemicals on a healing piercing, and that piercing heals up, your body is actually healing that piercing IN SPITE of what you are using and NOT BECAUSE of what are using.
Most people would probably be able to heal most piercings by doing absolutely nothing to them other than rinsing them with a little water when they bathe. That assumes they are able to keep from touching the piercing throughout the day and are able to keep it from coming in to contact with lots of things in the world. That is usually difficult for most people to do.
Therefore, an extra rinse or soak with a little water or sea salt water or saline can be helpful for most people as it rinses the piercing without being overly harsh. When it comes to sea salt solution vs saline….sea salt mixed with water is essentially trying to create saline, which is what is in your body. However, there is no way to make an exact saline mix with sea salt and water. However, you can usually get it close enough that it won’t irritate the piercing. Pre-mixed saline is a great option, but it can be more expensive and the benefit may not be significant. We suggest either and our clients have good success with them both.
Remember: when healing your piercing, the most important thing is to not touch the piercing. Leave it alone absolutely as much as possible. If you HAVE to touch it, be sure to wash your hands first. Also be sure to rinse off any soaps, shampoos or other bath products before getting out of the shower.
Hope this helps a bit.
Amber said,
August 27, 2011 @ 4:46 pm
I’m thinking about getting one of these for myself later this fall. I had wanted one on my nape, but since it sounds like that area is more likely to reject a microdermal (and I’m not interested in a surface piercing), I was wondering if the area directly between the collarbones has a better chance of “accepting” the jewelry?
Katie said,
August 29, 2011 @ 7:42 pm
I recently got two sets of dermals on each side of my hips. They are all doing very well except one. It has risen slightly and become red at times. However, when I put a band-aid on it, it looks perfect afterwards because it was sitting flush on the skin. This particular one is about four months old- what can I do to prevent it from rising anymore? My piercer (?) said that it wasn’t too bad, just treat it normally, clean it, and try not to irritate it. But is there any more advice that you can give me? The band-aid thing works, but only temporarily. Is it too late to do anything?
diana said,
September 11, 2011 @ 10:48 am
i just got dermal piercings on my shoulder and one rejected it.. when it heals can i get done again in the same spot? and how long does it take to heal?
Amber Marie said,
September 13, 2011 @ 3:59 pm
I got two dermals done on my lower back. I have kept bandaids on them while I have been working & while I sleep to help them hopefully set & heal without rejecting. They seem to be sticking out a little. I cant tell if it is because they are rejecting or because they are just set that way. What do you think? Whats the best thing to do?
louise said,
September 21, 2011 @ 4:58 pm
I was wondering… i have seen many pics of micro’s on the like front of the hips… however none directly on the side of the hip? like where rihanna has her tattoo going down her hip? some people consider this the place of “love handles” lol
i was a) wondering if it was possible to get a micro on there – as it is a thick area..
and b) if you could actually get one on the boob itself…?
brittany said,
September 25, 2011 @ 8:59 am
hi so i wanna get one done on my face but was just worried about have to get it removed caz every one was saying they wont last for ever so i was just wanting to know about the long term effects
nick said,
September 29, 2011 @ 7:57 pm
@ Brittany …. long term effects are still unknown at this point because these piercings have only been around for roughly 5 years. However, I have had microdermal piercings for over 4 years at this point and their locations are 3 in my chest and two on the side of my head. My piercings were also done by the “Creator” of microdermal anchors … Brian Decker. He did a great job with them and ive only had minimal problems since then. They do swell up (usually heat induced or the ones in my chest puss sometimes around my period since you breasts do swell) but besides that the ones on the side of my head are located by a nerve pocket which induce headaches occasionally. So my biggest suggestion for anyone thinking of getting them is… if you question it… don’t do it.
Mandie said,
October 1, 2011 @ 12:29 am
I have had dermals on my lower back for a couple years now; i haven’t had any problems with them, but is it bad not to change stud on a regular basis?
Mandie said,
October 1, 2011 @ 12:32 am
the studs*
Renee said,
October 2, 2011 @ 6:05 pm
I have recently gotten two dermals on my hands between my thumb and forefinger right below the knuckle of my forefinger. They are one week old and are healing fine. I am wondering if in your opinion this was an unfavorable place to put them? I am worried about rejection and my habits are changing as far as how I do things with my hands and I’m doing great so far as not snagging them on anything. Should I anticipate having to have them removed after a while. Thanks in advance for the input!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 8:56 am
Amber: We wouldn’t necessarily agree that microdermal piercings done on napes are more prone to rejection. We actually see a really high success rate on that part of the body. We also see a very high success rate for traditional nape surface piercings. Because the tissue in the nape of the neck is a little thicker/tougher, a microdermal with a slightly longer post is often best. They can also be a little more challenging to install in that area, compared to others, but an experienced piercer should have no real trouble doing it for you.
The other placement you asked about does tend to work pretty well for most people. But, as will all microdermal piercings, each person is going to have a different experience and there are no guarantees about how long the will last.
Hope that helps!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 8:59 am
Kaite: The advice your piercer gave is probably correct. If it has risen a bit, there really isn’t anything you can do about that, other than having it re-done. The bandaid probably helps because it keeps it from moving around as much and keeps it from getting caught stuff. You might try doing the band-aid thing consistently for a few weeks or month and see if that helps in terms of it getting irritated..but again, it won’t help it sit more flush in the long-run.
Good luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 9:02 am
Diana: You might be able to get it done in the same spot, but that will depend upon how much scarring there is after it is removed. You will definitely want the area to be completely settled down and have the scar tissue as flat/minimal as possible. Honest, microdermal piercings don’t tend to work out as well the second time around if done in the exact same spot. That’s doesn’t mean they don’t ever work out, but just be prepared for the possibility of rejection again.
If the first one rejected quickly (less than a month or two), it may be that it wasn’t installed properly or it’s also possible that the placement just wasn’t a good choice. Without seeing it from the beginning, we can’t really say for sure, but those are some other things to consider.
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 9:04 am
Amber Marie: Many microdermal piercings “rise” a bit as they heal. There are a few reasons for this, but most of the time it isn’t a problem, other than that if they stick up, they are a bit more likely to get caught/snagged on stuff. Covering them regular while they are healing is a good idea. There probably isn’t much you can do in terms of getting the to sit more flush than they are. As for whether they might be rejecting, that’s not something we could comment on unless we could see them in-person.
Hopefully this helps!
Best of luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 9:08 am
louise: Technically, with microdermal piercings, you can put them just about any place on the body. However, certain placements tend to work better than other. The big issue with the “love handle” placement you are talking about the potential for more movement from bending and such. Also, because the way most people’s pants fit, there is more likely to be irritation from them…depend upon how high you do them of course. As for the area being thicker, that isn’t as much of a concern as long as a the jewelry being used has a slightly longer post to accommodate the extra thickness.
Hope that helps!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 9:13 am
brittany: So, the longevity of microdermal piercings is kind of what this blog was about. What it comes down to is that there are no guarantees. There are people who have had them for 5 or 6 years (about how long they’ve been around) and there are people who have them reject in less than 4 months. In our experience, a lot of people seem to have them last about 2 years before they begin having problems with them. That isn’t a hard-and-fast rule by any means…it’s just kind of an “average” that we are seeing.
Generally speaking, if they are removed by an experienced piercer, they don’t tend to leave terrible scarring. But, they do tend to leave at least some scarring. So, you should be very okay with the idea of having some visible scarring on your face before you get one.
While most microdermal jewelry is 14 gauge, a few companies make some in 18 gauge, which is much smaller. These tend to be easier to remove and as a general rule will leave less scarring. The downside to them is that because they are so small, it is much easier for them to get accidentally pulled out. It’s something you should discuss with your piercer.
Hope this helps!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 9:16 am
nick: Just a small point of clarification: while Brian Decker is an incredibly talented modificatin artist, he is not the “creator” of microdermal piercings. He has probably been consulted by some of the companies who make the jewelry to help refine their design, but he wasn’t the first to come up with the design or make it a reality. Absolutely no disrespect intended to Brian…he’s a very gifted practitioner…just trying to make sure we keep misinformation to a minimum.
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 9:17 am
Mandie: Assuming you were pierced with a quality, implant-grade piece of titanium jewelry, there should be no need to change the stud itself. In fact, microdermal piercings can’t really be “changed”, other than putting different tops on them.. And again, if you are wearing a good-quality piece of jewelry, that isn’t even necessary.
Hope this helps!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 3, 2011 @ 9:21 am
Renee: Congratulations on your new piercings!
As for the longevity of them…in all honestly, piercings on hands don’t tend to work out very well for most people. The combination of movement, the number of things our hands bump in to and the amount of germs the come in to contact with make them very difficult to keep on any type of long-term basis. That’s not to say that you can’t, but you have to be realistic about the odds being against you on this one. It’s good they are doing well after a week, but a week is almost no time at all in the life a piercing you are trying to keep for a long time. And, unless something is done terribly wrong, most piercings (microdermal and traditional) look good during the first few weeks.
Hopefully they will work out well for you…but we would be a little surprised if they lasted more than a year. Best of luck!
Tanya said,
October 5, 2011 @ 9:09 am
I’ve had my belly button and cartilage pierced and both rejected on me. And I’ve had my ears pierced for about 16 years and just recently when I put earrings in, it irritates them. But if I put Neosporin on the earrings before it doesn’t hurt one bit. And what I was wondering was since I’ve had piercings reject on me, would it be a bad idea to get hip microdermals?
nick said,
October 7, 2011 @ 5:25 pm
@saint Sabrina … no disrespect… you ruled Brian Decker as not being the creator of microdermal piercings. OK, well for more clarification for those researching; who created them?
Rachel said,
October 9, 2011 @ 4:05 am
I’ve had my anchor for about 3 months with no problem. However the other day I accidentally scratched it. It is just a little red (not swelling, no puss, no raising) and i was wondering if there is any type of special care i should do now. Should I keep it covered with a Band-Aid? Or take ibprophen? I know extra salt soaks are not good so i was just wondering if you had any tips for what you do immediately after you bump it. Thanks!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 12, 2011 @ 3:39 pm
nick: In it’s current form, a guy named Pat Pruitt came up with the first microdermal jewelry, back when he had a company called Custom Steel that made body jewelry. If you check out Pat’s personal site you’ll see he’s clearly a talented, and innovative jewelry designer, and that innovation was ever-present in the body jewelry he made.
Pat debuted his design to a few people one year at the Association of Professional Piercer’s annual conference. As tends to happen with these sorts of things, another company got wind of the basics of the design and they were soon mass-producing their version, leading to the first wave of popularity of microdermals. Not long after that, many other companies started making their own versions. But, they are all modifications (and perhaps even improvements) on the design Pat came up with. And as they say,the rest is history.
Now, the microdermal that Pat came up with was partially the result of the “dermal anchor”, which was “invented” by a piercer named Ben Trigg. His version of a dermal anchor was essentially a modified nostril screw that was inserted in to the skin. At this point in time, while you may still be able to buy them, there are very few piercers using them.
Hopefully that sheds a little light on the topic.
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 12, 2011 @ 3:42 pm
The best thing you can do after bumping a microdermal is just be extra careful with it. If you want to take ibuprofen or something like that to help with the swelling, it might be beneficial…but it also might not. Unfortunately, once the “damage” is done, all you can really do is just try to be as nice as you can to it and hope for the best.
Good luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 12, 2011 @ 3:53 pm
Tanya: First of all, it’s important to define what we mena by “reject”. For us piercers, using the word reject means that your body physically starts to push the jewelry out of your skin. In most cases, if you don’t remove the jewelry, it will eventually fall all the way out. When non-piercers talk about a piercing “rejected”, they often mean a piercing that is sore, irritated and is having difficulty healing. While navel piercings can reject, it would be very uncommon to have a cartilage piercing reject; could happen, just not very likely. So, we’ll assume you’re talking about having a hard time healing the piercings and not having them fully reject.
Your description of the issue you are having with your earrings sounds very much like an allergic reaction/sensitivity. Reactions to materials jewelry is made of can get worse over time as your body is exposed more the thing it is allergic/sensitive to. So, while you may have been able to wear any type of earring you wanted when you were younger, as you’ve gotten older, your body has become less able to tolerate whatever is in the jewelry that is irritating it. Most commonly with earrings, it is the nickel that is in the jewelry that causes people a problem.
Most of the cheap jewelry you buy at mall stores tends to have a very high nickel content in it. Many people have trouble wearing it. When you wear a high quality piece of implant-grade stainless steel, titanium or solid gold jewelry, the chances of having a reaction are very low, either because the jewelry contains no nickel (in the case of titanium and a lot of gold) or it has a very small amount of nickel in it (in the case of implant-grade stainless steel). The most likely reason you don’t have problems with your piercings when you put Neosporin on them is that the ointment serves as a protective barrier between the jewelry and your skin.
If you were one of our clients, we would suggest doing your microdermals piercings with titanium jewelry to greatly reduce the chance of an allergic reaction. The majority of microdermal jewelry (at least the bases) is made from titanium, but not all of it. So, you would want to check with your piercer beforehand. As we stated in the blog, you have to keep in mind that microdermal piercings simply reject sometimes. So, using titanium jewelry isn’t a guarantee that you won’t have any issues, but it will reduce the chances of having an issue as a result of the material the jewelry is made of.
Best of luck if you decide to get them done!
Josalynn Hikel said,
October 14, 2011 @ 9:37 pm
how much are lower back/dimple piercings? what is the average price of them?
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 15, 2011 @ 10:51 am
Josalynn: We’re happy to give you our prices for them. The piercing fee is $40 for one, or $70 for two. Jewelry starts at $45 and goes up from there depend upon what you select for the end. Flat disks and other basic ends would be $45. If you want something with a gem, those start at $55.
Hopefully that helps!
brenda mejia said,
October 16, 2011 @ 7:58 pm
Hi,
I want to get a microdermal done on the side of my neck. The problem is i am allergic to everything except gold and titanium. I have never actually tried titanium. I need help. I dnt want my piercing to reject so i want to know which one you would recommend the most.
Ryan Graham said,
October 17, 2011 @ 8:55 am
I have a dermal in the middle of my chest that I had done about a month ago. In the past week it has become irritated. It’s hard around the dermal and red. I cleaned it for the first two weeks as instructed and then stopped cleaning it. What is this and can I do anything for it?
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 19, 2011 @ 10:54 am
Brenda: While there is no jewelry material that is perfect for everyone, as a general rule, titanium is a really great option for the all but a few people. Reactions to titanium are very uncommon, which is one of the reasons it is used so extensively in medical implants. Best guess…titanium will be a good option for you. Also, we don’t recall having ever seen microdermal jewelry made out of gold. It would certainly be possible to do that, and it would probably work well, but there may be some potential for damaging the jewelry (because gold is a bit soft) when changing the ends. In addition, it would be substantially more expensive.
As we’ve mentioned before, having a good-quality piece of jewelry, while critically important, isn’t a guarantee that your microdermal piercing won’t reject or have other problems.
Best of luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
October 19, 2011 @ 10:57 am
Ryan: Sorry to hear about the problem you are having. Unfortunately, without being able to see your piercing, there isn’t a lot we can tell you about what is going on with it. It could simply have gotten snagged, and therefore irritated. You may gotten something in the piercing that is causing the hardness and inflammation. You could try doing some really hot (don’t burn yourself, obviously) water compresses on it for 5 minutes, a couple of times per day. But, your best option is to have a piercer experienced in dealing with microdermals take a look at it.
Good luck getting it sorted out!
Parker said,
October 21, 2011 @ 12:54 pm
One week ago I got a mirco dermal on my sternum. It was healing well, I had my piercer look at it, she got the dried blood off and suggested I do sea salt compresses to help it sit better. This morning, while I was all groggy and stuff, I snagged my piercing pretty bad on my fake nail. The shorter end of the foot came out, but it didn’t come out all the way. I grabbed a tissue and popped it back in. I’m now at work and cannot see my piercer for 8 hours. Do you think my piercing will be ok? If one end comes out, does that mean I have to get it repierced? Will this stop it from healing correctly now? Please let me know and how to handle future snagging situations. Thanks.
Luna said,
November 2, 2011 @ 8:24 am
I’m from NC in a county where it is illegal and when I was in Vegas I got two chest dermals done and they have faired pretty well. I have had a few flair ups every now and then and I’ve had them since June.
However one side has just seemed to sit much more shallow recently. Shallow enough where i can feel the foot. What does this mean? Its not pink or red, the skin is just real tight around the jewelry top.
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 2, 2011 @ 3:08 pm
Luna:
The fact that one microdermal sticks up more than another doesn’t necessarily mean anything. In some cases they simply migrate towards the surface a bit and then stay there. The biggest issue with a microdermal that sticks up more is that it’s more likely to get caught/snagged on things, which can be very hard on the piercing. Now, in some cases, the jewelry moving towards the surface is a sign of things to come, in terms of migration or just generally being problematic. Unfortunately, only time is going to tell in this case.
Deanne said,
November 3, 2011 @ 12:34 am
Hello, I had a dermal piercing about 2 months ago on my hand I love it! I think it looks so pretty haha! But for the past week it has been red all around the piercing and the other day it hurt a little to touch.. I also tried to look under the piercing without pulling it too much and white stuff was coming out? Just tiny a bit though!
Since then I’ve used the proper anti-bacterial wipes that piercers use, anti-bacterial handwash and I put some salt water on it earlier too. I’ve only been doing this for about 2 days now and it still looks the same.. do you think I should carry on with what I’m doing for a while or go to my piercer?
Please help, I would HATE to have to have it taken out!
x
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 3, 2011 @ 1:54 pm
Deanne:
In these types of situations, it’s always best to go see your piercer. There’s any number of things that could be going on, but without being able to see it, it’s impossible to say with any type of certainty. Your piercer should be able to look at it and let you know what the best course of action is.
Keep in mind that microdermal piercings on hands rarely work out in the long-term. They simply get knocked around too much and are pretty much constantly coming in to contact with things that coule potentially cause an infection. As a general rule, you also don’t want to do too much to it, in terms of aftercare. Using too many different products, or cleaning it too often, can cause irritation which can slow down your healing. That is one of the tricky things about piercings on hands/fingers: you want to do stuff to keep them clean because they come in to contact with some much dirty stuff, but cleaning them too frequently also makes them harder to heal.
If you don’t feel like your piercer was able to give you an adequate answer, stop by and hit us up again and we’ll see what advice we can offer.
Deanne said,
November 3, 2011 @ 6:54 pm
Thank you so much! I am going to see my piercer tomorrow and hopefully he can tell me what to do! (:
x
Heather said,
November 4, 2011 @ 10:04 am
Hello, I have 3 dermals on my sternum in the shape of a triangle. I got my first in October 2010 just above my cleavage. I had the other two placed off to the sides (to form an inverted triangle) in February 2011. I have fought infections on and off for months, but just 5 days ago my dermal on the right side got really infected. I did a sea salt solution, and it helped but it now seemed to be rejecting. This dermal never set properly, you could always feel the titanium plate sticking up. In fact my piercer struggled to get this one in, it bled horrible when I had it done and I was left with a bruise the side of a small pizza on my chest. So now it’s not tender, but bright red. It’s not oozing but it almost looks BLACK and I’m freaking out. Because of it’s location it’s hard for me to look down and see how it looks so I’m relying on what it looks like in a mirror vs visually with my own eyes (hope that makes sense). Are there any recommendations as to what kind of doctor to see to have these removed? If the right side is rejecting I have to have the left side removed as there will be no symetry. I’m totally bumed and freaking out at the same time!
Rachel said,
November 4, 2011 @ 10:06 am
I have had my tragus piercing and navel piercing reject. But I have my lip, nostril, septum, multiple in my ears that have stayed. How likely, given my history, do you think it is that if I got a microdermal on my wrist would reject?
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 6, 2011 @ 10:40 am
Hey Heather:
Sorry to hear about the problems you are having.
First of all, you shouldn’t need to see a doctor to have it removed. A piercer experienced with microdermal piercings should have absolutely no problem removing it/them for you. While doctors may have some of the tools needed to remove them, they usually have no experience with them, In many cases, they make removal much more complicated, and much more involved, than it really needs to be. In most cases, an experienced piercer will be able to remove the jewelry with some tissue manipulation/massage and a bit of pressure. In the rare occasion that doesn’t work, usually all that is required is piercing needle which is used to pierce a small hole in the skin near the jewelry to help ease it out.
Whether you choose to go see your doctor to have it remove is, of course, your decision. Just keep in mind that it is often much more traumatic and more costly than it needs to be.
Best of luck.
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 6, 2011 @ 10:45 am
Rachel:
As we’ve mentioned to others who have asked this same question, experience with other “standard” piercings, really doesn’t translate to mcicrodermal piercings directly. If you’ve been successful healing piercings before, that’s generally a good sign in terms of your body’s ability to heal wounds But, none of the piercings you’ve had previously are surface piercings, which tend to be a whole different “thing” than more standard piercings.
Obviously, taking care of your body and your piercings will be important in order to get a microdermal piercing to be successful. You are going to have to take care to not bump it or snag it on things. You will need to keep your hands off and just generally be as gentle with it as you can. But, there is no way to guarantee long-term success. Some of it just comes down to how your body reacts as well as a bit of luck. As we mentioned in the blog, microdermal piercings CAN be something that you have as long as you want, but many people also find that after about the 2 year mark, they can begin to flare up and/or start to reject. So, just be aware of that going in to it.
Hopefully this helps a bit. Good luck!
Melisa said,
November 10, 2011 @ 2:29 am
Hey! Great Blog by the way. From what I have been looking around the internet for and what you provided is by far, the most educational and informational. Also since you take the time to answer almost all questions posted to you. =D
With that being said, I think I found my answer in the commentary above, but I just want to make sure. I have three anchors on my left temple/by my left eye in a arc. I got 1 last February as a ‘tester’ to make sure the location would work out. Then in April I got 2 more (top and bottom of the pattern). Things have been great, and I love them! About 3 weeks ago, (I’m a baddy for mindlessly playing with them) the tops were lost and I never made it in to get new ones to replace them.
By the time I got in to replace them, my piercer comment on how my bottom one was ‘mad at me.’ As he had to clean it out to get them in. Anyways, my bottom anchor is red, slightly raised, and tender to the touch. What I got from reading is I need to just treat it as if I just got it pierced again, IE. cleaning 2 times a day, treating it gingerly. Is this correct? My Top one is slightly the same, but not to the same extreme. Second question, is letting them go uncovered for extended amount of time a bad idea? As in it exposes them more then if they are covered?
Thanks for you time!
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 10, 2011 @ 6:32 pm
Melisa: Glad you’re finding the blog useful. There is so much mis-information, and just plain bad information, on-line about piercing that we’re just doing our part to try and provide good information. We think informed piercees are the best kind of piercees.
If your piercing is irritated, the most important thing is to be as careful with it as you can. Going back to some cleaning can be helpful, although be sure you aren’t using anything too harsh (we don’t like anything stronger than salt water/saline) and we would probably suggest only doing that once per day. For the most part, you want to let your body do it’s “thing” and get the piercing back to being happy.
In general, you shouldn’t need to cover them that much. We usually only suggest covering them for the first week or two while you are sleeping just to prevent accidental snagging. You don’t want to cover them too much, as that can hinder the healing process.
Hopefully this helps and best of luck with the rest of your healing!
Penny said,
November 12, 2011 @ 3:11 am
Hi I’ve had 3 mircrodermals placed in the back of by neck about a week ago, none of them seem to to healing flat! One is pointing to the left, one looks as if it’s going to slip underneath the skin on one side, and the other is pointing down. I clean them every day with antibacterial soap and have done one salt water wash. the skin around the dermals still look a little swollen and dry / red. I’m just wondering what are the chances of them healing flat once the swelling has gone down and are fully healed?
lauren said,
November 13, 2011 @ 12:48 pm
i got 3 dermals on my hip about 6 months ago, and they’ve healed fine, although i hit the bottom one often and my pants irritate it sometimes to. they haven’t been a problem necessarily but it sucks you have to be conscience of them all the time. A month after i got them done, the diamond on my bottom dermal fell off and i had to get another put back on, and a few times the bottom one swells up and a puss like substance comes out and then its fine again. but i want to know if thats a bad thing that its happened multiple times?
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 13, 2011 @ 5:14 pm
Penny: Sorry to hear about the problems you are having with your piercings. Obviously, we are somewhat limited by what we can tell you, since we can’t see your piercings. However, if you seem to be having this many problems after only a week, it probably doesn’t bode well for the longevity of the piercings. While swelling can cause a micordermal piercing to sit a little tilted, it’s often not something that is even noticeable without a very close inspection. So, if it’s sitting noticeably tilted, chances are it wasn’t seated properly to begin with. As for the one that looks like it is sinking into the skin, obviously, that is not a good thing and it’s something you want to get taken care of sooner than later. If it manages to slip all the way under the skin, it is going to be much more difficult, and much more painful, to deal with. The one that is pointing down, again probably indicates that it wasn’t put in correctly to begin with.
When microdermal piercings are done on the back of the neck (and certain other parts of the body), it is often necessary to use a piece of jewelry that has a slightly longer post because the skin is thicker in that part of the body than man other places. If a longer one isn’t used, that can often put excessive pressure on the jewelry and can cause it to tilt. Obviously, not knowing any more than what you’ve told us, there’s no way for us to say for certain that’s what is gong on. But, it certainly sounds like a strongly possibility.
If you have the option of having a different experienced piercer look at them for you, that might not be a bad idea. You can certainly visit your original piercer, but given that it appears they may have done a less-than-ideal job putting them in, an independent second opinion might be more useful.
Again, since we can’t see these, everything we’ve said here is a little bit of guess work. Best of luck getting it all sorted out.
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 13, 2011 @ 5:17 pm
Lauren: The repeated irritation that you are getting oftentimes goes along with having microdermal piercings, because they get hit/bump/snagged. In an area like the hips, as you mentioned, pants can be a really problem. If the piercings calm down pretty quickly after getting irritated, that’s a good sign. But in the end, repeated irritation isn’t going to be good for them. If you have an instance where they get snagged, you might try using some sort of cold compress on it for 5 minutes or so, to try to help alleviate some of the irritation and swelling. Just be sure to put something clean (like a sterile piece of gauze) between your ice pack and the piercing.
Good luck!
Aleesha said,
November 14, 2011 @ 3:08 am
This blog is amazing wish i would’ve known about it before i got my dermals!
I have 3 microdermals, my back dimples august 3rd ish and my sternum afew weeks ago.
They are all doing awesome except for this morning when I woke up the right back dimple one is very achy and tender to the touch, not like stinging but just a constant ache. It is slightly warmer to the touch, tender and a bit red. I feel almost a lump under neath the area and it is very tight and hard all around the piercing. I applied some sea salt/water mixture and saw the above response with the ice pack i will try. I am going to see my piercer tomorrow and show it to the doctor that i work with, but I was just curious if there is anything else i should be doing or not doing. I use tea tree oil for various things like blemishes and such, since it is a natural antibacterial agent i was wondering what your thoughts are for applying a diluted amount to it to ward off any infection? Thanks for your time and your guys’es great answers:)
Loujuana said,
November 16, 2011 @ 3:50 am
A week ago I got a dermal on the side of my right eye just two days ago I noticed it was red a lil puss came out and now underneath my eye is puffy it doesnt hurt no color but a lil red on the dermal is this bad. I just wanted to know if its infected or if its healing im scared. Ive asked many people who had the same percing and thwy said im fine its just healing but im scared and I dont know its true. What should I do?
Loujuana said,
November 16, 2011 @ 4:06 am
Well now I just looked at it and its a lil red where its puffy underneth my eye is this ok I dont know what to expect if its healing or infected ive only had it on for a week people said it takes over a week to show signs of heeling they told me it was going to swell up that puss is going to come out and its going to hurt a lil that I shouldnt worry cause its healing.
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 17, 2011 @ 12:43 pm
Loujuana: It’s normal for any piercing to be a little swollen and red for the first week or two. It’s just part of what your body goes through as it heals. Think about a cut that you get on your arm; it’s red and swollen in the beginning. Piercing will stay red and swollen a bit longer because you have a piece of jewelry in it that keeps things a big more irritated.
Without being able to see your piercing, we can’t really say for sure if everything that is going on is normal. But, for a week-old microdermal piercing, it certainly doesn’t sound uncommon.
If you are still worried about it, your piercer should be happy to take a look at it for you.
Selina said,
November 18, 2011 @ 12:01 pm
Hi so I have my back dimples pierced and I snagged one and now it is like side ways and looks like one side is coming out. Can I just push it back in and clean it or should I get it removed? and also it looks like there is a bubble around it but im not sure if that’s because I snagged it and now its pushing it out. And my other one is hard around it but looks okay, so what should I clean it with and stuff.
Rida said,
November 20, 2011 @ 12:48 am
Hello, I just got my first dermal near my eye. I am quite nervous after reading the posts but hey I am going to see where the healing process takes me. My question is I know I have to wait a couple months to change the top, however I was wandering if you or a specific supplier sells genuine diamond tops for dermals? The place I got my piercing only had certain gems- so I chose a generic light blue gem. I have been looking all over the internet and cannot find anywhere that seems legitimate. Thanks again.
Saint Sabrina's said,
November 20, 2011 @ 11:18 am
Rida: We do sell genuine diamond ends for microdermal piercings. There really isn’t anywhere that we could recommend on-line that you would be able to buy a genuine diamond. That doesn’t mean there aren’t any, just that we can’t vouch for the legitimacy of the site or the quality of the jewelry they are selling. You may want to speak with piercing shops in your area and see if they can order something for you if they don’t currently have it in stock. If that option ends up not working for you, you could contact us at jewelry [at] saintsabrinas [dot] com and we could see about ordering something for you. However, keep in mind that since we don’t know what company your microdermal jewelry is from, there is no way for us to know that the jewelry will have will be compatible. Now, most microdermal jewelry use the same threading size/pattern, but without knowing what company made the jewelry, there is no way to be 100% certain.
Hopefully this helps.
Tawny Sophia. said,
November 20, 2011 @ 4:26 pm
I read this and so far I thought it was super helpful.
I’ve been thinking so far about getting two hip microdermals on both sides, so a total of four. But the one problem I’m thinking of off the back, is that I have very sensitive skin when it comes to itching and things like that, and my skin gets swollen for about 10 or 15 minutes. So, is that a problem if I actually get them?
Thank you
Taylor said,
November 21, 2011 @ 11:13 am
HIII, i got a microdermal on my neck Saturday. I am 16 and i completely hate it. I was wondering if i went back to the Tattoo Shop that did it, if they could take it out for me?
Felicia said,
December 4, 2011 @ 7:57 pm
awesome blog guys! I just got 4 dermals in my chest/shoulder area in a tat….I worked today as a dog groomer and a dog pulled really hard on my arm and almost dislocated my shoulder. The dermal on the front of my shoulder/chest area has some slight bruising around it now bt no puss or leaking. their only 2 days old. is this bad? Im keeping them covered at all times cleaning them two to three times a day using saline solution and not touching them otherwise. What do you think my chances are of these dermals not rejecting dve to them being in an active place that moves alot but doesnt really get rubbed or banged. one of them is on the very top part of boob where it meets the chest the other is by front of shoulder above the muscle there, those two are the ones im most worried about.
Saint Sabrina's said,
December 6, 2011 @ 4:54 pm
Felicia: The chances of your microdermal piercings working out in that placement probably isn’t much worse than many of hte other places people put them, and better than some locations. The key is to limit movement as much as is realistic during the healing and keep them from getting knocked around as much as possible.
The reality is, microdermal piercings are temporary for many people, no matter where they are placed or how well you take care of them. When we say “temporary”, that could still be several years. But, a lot of people do find that the piercings start to reject at some point. That isn’t always the case, but it certainly isn’t uncommon.
Best of luck with the rest of your healing!
Stefanie said,
December 7, 2011 @ 5:23 pm
Best info I have found so far, thanks for that!
Question: I had my microdermal done in my hip 2 days ago. This evening I wanted to clean it, and it jumped completely out! First I panicked, but I have (strong) disinfected the micro and the skin, and I’ve put it back in, very cautious with a disinfected tweezers. No blood at all. I hope I’ve done it well, it looks like before. But I don’t have a clue wether it is in the same direction as before.. After that I have used an alcohol path on it for about 10 minutes. Now there’s again a ‘Elastoplast Anti Bacterial Waterproof’ plaster on it. Have I done something stupid? Because I panicked..
Also, I change the plaster 2 times a day, does it slow the healing process down because with the plaster on it, it doesn’t tough the air? I’m planning to do this for 7 days (day & night), and then during the night for the first month.
Also, I’ve seen now that it’s a solid plate anchor, didn’t make me happy to see that, because I think this way, it will never stay in, and the risk of popping back out will be far more then a plate with holes isn’t it?
Thank you in advance for doing the effort of answering my question, I’m just worried now..
Saint Sabrina's said,
December 8, 2011 @ 11:43 am
Stefanie:
Glad you found the blog helpful.
It sounds like you’ve done the best thing you could in this particular situation; clean the jewelry as well as you can and then put it back in. It was fortunate that you were able to get it back on. They can definitely be tricky to insert at times. The fact that it was a couple of days old was probably helpful in keeping the piercing open long enough to be able to put it back in easily.
Covering the piercings with band-aids/plasters is often a good idea in the beginning. When you apply them, just be sure to not have any of the adhesive touching the jewelry, otherwise it could pull the jewelry out when you remove it. Also, don’t apply the plaster too tightly. Mostly you want it on the piercing to keep it from getting snagged on things.
As for the jewelry being the type with no holes in the base, honestly, that probably isn’t that much of an issue. We don’t currently use that style, but are looking at switching to it. A good number of piercers we highly trust and respect have reported seeing no difference in healing or longevity between using jewelry with holes in the base and jewelry without holes in the base. The one place they have noticed a big difference is in removal; the jewelry without holes in the base comes out much easier when it’s time to remove it.
When the piercing is still very new, it’s just as likely to pop out if it gets caught whether there are holes in the base or not.
Hopefully this helps a bit. Even though it can be hard, try not to worry too much about the piercing. Extra stress can interfere with your body’s ability to heal. Just be careful with it and take good care of it…and most importantly, enjoy it!
Stefanie said,
December 11, 2011 @ 3:53 pm
Thank you so much for all the explanation! It makes me feel a lot better. And yes, I’m definitely enjoying it, it’s absolutely a stunning piercing to have
Jasmine said,
December 16, 2011 @ 3:07 am
I had a dermal pierced near my eye, its been two months since “I” taken it out. Im wondering can i get it done just close to where it was pierced tha last time.? It kinda left a mark nd iwanna cover it. Its not th noticable but still. Ive had it in since dec 2010 til Oct 2011. I loveeeee microdermals so i really want to get two done next time if possible
Holly said,
December 18, 2011 @ 9:39 am
Hi:)
i have a microdermal next to my eye, below my temple its been in 6month now, its been healing fine, im just wandering is lymph normal?im just curious if its considerd normal & if it was to stay in for say 5years would it always at some point excrete lymph? Theres no pain, no redness, no wamth too it just every couple of month a bit of lymph. Ive read its “healthy” or “normal” as it means ur body working and removing the crap?
Thank u
felicia said,
December 23, 2011 @ 10:32 pm
hi so i have 4 micros in my chest n one of them seems to b sitting lowr than the other ones. the tp of thgem on the e dermal is almost level with my skin where my other ones sit more ontop the skin but flush. its almost like this one sank in a bit. is this ok will it cause prob changing the gem? i had a little clear fluid come out the other day but its fine now. no redness or swelling.
Rebecca said,
December 26, 2011 @ 12:09 am
My question is…I have two cleavage microdermals that are about 8 months old. I noticed today that one of them the top is gone. Im wondering if it will go under my skin before i can get to a piercer and if this is going to present a problem with infection? Ithought it broke but after reading this I am assuming they screw on somehow if you are able to change them… Any answers or advice would be much appreciated.
Chloe said,
December 29, 2011 @ 8:02 pm
I did have two microdermals in my wrist but one of them came out and I was just wondering what would happen if I got it re-pierced in the exact place it was before it came out without waiting a year?(it came out on the 11th of november about a month after I got it done)..
alisa said,
January 1, 2012 @ 10:31 pm
i got a micro on my left corner of my left eye…to look like a beauty mark..i love it but it is point downward now…i thought is was rejecting up my pcr said it is not that bad…..i love it but really dont like its position now…they are very fragil…i did no t know this when i got it…i got in is aug 2011/////i keep trying to help it with tree tree oil and i tape it a night…just be warned they are alot of work and care..no matter what anyone says…i am almost sorry i got it…even thou it is so pretty….i am 53yrs old…and have lots of piercing for many many years……,u have to watch were us get them and they are a problem even thou they look great….it is up to u to decide…happy new year and peace…..
alisa said,
January 1, 2012 @ 10:33 pm
and no old cracks!!!!!!!ha ha…..
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 5, 2012 @ 10:47 am
Jasmine: Microdermals can typicallybe re-done in the general area of where they were done before. We usually suggest not r-doing them in the exact same spot as before, as the scar tissue that is created from having the piercing will often prevent the jewelry from resting in the skin the way it needs to in order to have a good chance of being successful.
Good luck with your future piercings!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 5, 2012 @ 11:07 am
Holly: With any piercing, it’s pretty normal for it secret some fluids and dead skin cells. It’s rarely actually lymph, but that is a name that gets attached to that discharge. With many piercings, the jewelry moves around enough to push that discharge to the outside of the piercing where it gets wiped off or cleaned off during normal hygiene. With micordermals, the dead skins cells don’t get moved outside as easily, so they often will build-up a bit and then be forced out once there is too much build-up.
So, to answer your question…yes, some discharge is normal…especially with a healing piercing. If you have the piercing for many years, you will likely still get some discharge but it should be less and less frequently.
One thing that can help is once a week or so, VERY GENTLY, pass a small bit of unflavored dental floss under the disk/gem/end you are have on the piercing. This can help remove discharge as well as oils, cleaning product and general “gunk” that can build up there.
Enjoy you new piercing!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 5, 2012 @ 11:08 am
felicia: Without seeing your piercings it’s impossible to tell you if what is going on is, or will be, a problem. In situations like this, your best option is usually to visit your piercer and let them look at it. They should be able to tell you how best to deal with the situation. Sorry we couldn’t be of more help.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 5, 2012 @ 11:10 am
Rebecca: Sorry we didn’t get to your question sooner…holiday craziness, and all that.
It sounds like the end did in fact come unscrewed. In same cases, having no top on the jewelry isn’t an issue. But, depending upon how deeply the jewelry is setting under the skin, it can sometimes be a problem, as skin will heal over the end of the post. If you haven’t had a new end put on by now, you should probably make it a priority to get that done, just to be on the safe side.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 5, 2012 @ 11:12 am
Chloe: There is no rule about waiting a year to have a microdermal re-done. Your piercer should be able to determine when the skin is healthy enough to be pierced again. However, we don’t usually suggest having them re-done in the same exact spot. The scar tissue that forms as a result of having the piercing the first usually prevents the jewelry from sitting correctly, which usually leads to healing problem and/or longevity problems.
Hopefully this helps!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 5, 2012 @ 11:16 am
alisa: You’re never too old for piercings!!!
The jewelry should not be pointing downward. Even if it’s “not that bad”, it’s still not correct. If it’s tilted, that indicates that it is not sitting in the tissue correctly. Realistically, that will probably mean that the piercing is going to last a long time…it might, but chances are against. The other issue is that it just doesn’t look like it should or as good as it could.
Unfortunately, the use of tea tree oil and the use of tape probably won’t really help. If the jewelry isn’t sitting appropriately, it simply creates to much pressure and irritation that is nearly impossible to relieve. It sounds like the piercing should be removed and re-done (if you want it still).
Best of luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 5, 2012 @ 11:18 am
Taylor: Sorry we missed this question until now. Hopefully you have gotten your piercing removed if continued to be unahppy with it. To answer your question….yes, the shop who that did it should be able to remove it for you without any issues.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 5, 2012 @ 11:19 am
Tawny: Many people’s skin reacts similar to yours when pinched or scratched or otherwise irritated. You may want to make your piercers aware of it, but it shouldn’t cause any long-term problems.
Jennifer said,
January 9, 2012 @ 1:48 am
Sooo I’ve been wanting to get hip piercings for a while now…but I’m still not sure if I should. I want to get dermals.
Do I have to wear a type of clothing all the time. Or just during the healing process?
Jennifer said,
January 9, 2012 @ 1:57 am
Also…do you recommend dermal piercings on your hips?
And will I be able to take it off myself or will I have to go to a proffesional?
nick said,
January 9, 2012 @ 2:18 pm
i got 2 collarbone dermals one is redder then the other is this normal also one seems more relaxed and what is the rejection rate on such high movement areas like this
Sara said,
January 9, 2012 @ 4:55 pm
I just got two dermal piercings on my hips on December 27th. Whenever my piercer did the dermals, one was slightly raised out of my skin higher than the other, and i can see the bar coming out of my skin. This is still the case, and that one is a tiny bit sore but nothing too terrible. I was wondering if the piercing will ever settle or if it will stay the way it is?
nick said,
January 9, 2012 @ 5:55 pm
sara i can answer that for you seems like your piercer did not place the anchor deep enough so in order to fix it you would have get it redone
Thiwat said,
January 14, 2012 @ 11:21 am
So my anti-eyebrow pierced and the gem fell off and my skin grew over the anchor can i still get my gem back on ?
Amber said,
January 15, 2012 @ 3:19 pm
Recently, when I went to change one of the tops on my microdermals, I noticed I wasn’t turning the stud but the ENTIRE anchor itself! It hasn’t been swollen, red, or painful at any other point up til or even after that. Even if I touch it, it doesn’t hurt. Only if I attempt to remove the top. I’m assuming there’s no more skin holding it in, or going to regrow through the holes of the anchor… so should I have it removed?
libby said,
January 17, 2012 @ 7:33 pm
I really!!!! want a tattoo done on my birthday 1/24
Ronelle said,
January 20, 2012 @ 7:04 pm
Will be in soon! Usually get everything done in Clear Lake WI but they are one of the places that can no longer do mic. We have been looking everywhere to get them done again. (The BFs “grew out” about 9months after he got them and he has been dying to get them put back in again) YAY! So excited and Im looking forward to checking out your place for the first time!
Itzel said,
January 22, 2012 @ 4:04 am
I got my microdermal piercing on my face like the last picture but I got a couple of questions .
If I take the jewlery off just the ball/diamond for a couple of hours will it close on me? cause I need to take it off for school but I’ll put it back it once I’m out but was just curious if it won’t close on me
also I don’t sleep on the side that I have my dermal and that side of my hip is hurting but I don’t want to sleep on the side of it cause I’m scared it’ll yank it out or something , can I sleep on that side or no?
stephanie said,
January 22, 2012 @ 7:32 pm
Hi i was wondering if im more likeley to reject a dermal anchor, ive had my belly done twice and slowly rejected the piercing it never got sore or red the skin just got really thin, i wanted the anchors on my lower back, is that a place where it is higher to reject? Also my mom has a history of rejecting piercings, what should i do?
Allie said,
January 22, 2012 @ 10:50 pm
Hey I’ve had my chest / collar bone microdermals for about 7 months now and one of them is acting kind of strange, it is alittle dry right around the gem area & its sometimes faintly red (in the same area) with this one I can’t see the bar part as much as the other one & even tho both of then healed with almost no problems I have been freaking out alittle lately.. Are they infected? & I’m also tossing around the idea of getting them removed… Will it hurt a lot. They are pretty secure other then what I previously metioned… PLEASE help; I’m alittle more then freaked out about getting them removed..
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:17 pm
Allie: Sorry to hear about the problems you are having. Unfortunately, there is no way for us to tell you if you have some sort of infection. Even if we could see them in person, we wouldn’t be able to tell you that for sure. If you are concerned about an infection, your best option is to consult with your piercer and then follow-up with your doctor. If your let your piercer look at them, the should be able to let you know if what is going on with them seems like it might be an infection or something else to be concerned about. Many times piercings simply get irritated, but an irritated piercing can sometimes seem like an infection.
As for whether or not to take them out, that is something you will have to decide for yourself. Your piercer might be able to give you some input on the topic once they have seen them. In many cases, an experienced piercer can tell whether it makes sense or not to try and keep a piercing. If you do have to get them removed, that process shouldn’t be too painful…again, assuming you have an experienced piercer remove them for you.
Hopefully this helps at least a little bit.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:25 pm
Stephanie:Unfortunately, there is no way for us to be able to tell you what is likely to happen with a microdermal piercing you have. They can’t really be compared to other, more “traditional” piercings like a navel piercing. The fact that microdermal piercings are a surface piercing, makes them more prone to rejection in general…but that doesn’t really tell us anything about your specific case. Your mom’s history with piercing probably also won’t tell you much about how likely the will be to reject.
It’s important to find an experienced piercer who will do the piercing using the highest-quality jewelry and who will be able to accurate assess our skin to determine if the lower back placement is a good option for you. Not everyone has loose enough skin to make the piercing in that area a good option. But, that can only be determined by looking at the skin as well as feeling how it moves. Like we said, finding an experienced, safe piercer, using high-quality jewelry is the most important first step you can take to help ensure the success of microdermal piercings if you decide to get them>
A great resource to help find a piercer is the Association of Professional Piercerss web site. They have a list of members in each state. That list can be found here:
http://www.safepiercing.org/locate-a-member/searchable-member-database/
If there isn’t an APP member hear you, that doesn’t mean there aren’t other acceptable piercers. The APP has another resource you can use…a list of things to look for when trying to find a body piercer/piercig studio. You can find that list here:
http://www.safepiercing.org/piercing/choosing-a-piercer/
Best of luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:29 pm
Itzel: As long as the post of the jewelry doesn’t sink below the skin when the end is removed, you should be able to remove the ends and put them back on. However, keep in mind that messing around with a newer microdermal is usually a bad idea. The more you touch it, the more you are going to irritate it, which is going to make it more difficult to heal as well as potentially cause extra swelling. That extra swelling can cause the tissue to rise above the end of the post, which will make it more likely the skin would close over the post when the gem is off.
So, while you may be able to get away with removing the end for school, it may cause you problems.
As for sleeping on it…anything you can do to avoid irritating is going to be best for the piercing.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:29 pm
We’ll look forward to seeing you soon, hopefully, Ronelle!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:30 pm
Well, hopefully you will be able to get a tattoo on your birthday!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:34 pm
Amber: If the piercing isn’t bothering you, there is no reason you should have to remove it. While some tissue does typically help keep the jewelry in place, that isn’t the case for everyone. Some people find that no tissues attaches to the jewelry, and it never causes them a problem. The “good” part of that is that if you ever need to have it removed, it should come out a little easier. Hopefully this helps!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:35 pm
If the skin grew over the anchor, you will need to see your piercer. They might be able to get the anchor post out of the skin and put the gem back on without it being a problem. But, that is something a piercer would need to see in-person to be able to answer accurately. Best of luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:45 pm
Jennifer: Generally speaking, micordermal piercings tend to work out pretty good on the hips. But, the success has a lot to do with the placement that is chosen, how loose or tight the skin is, how much it moves in particular area the piecing is done and how much abuse the piercings take during the healing. One of the big challenges with hip piercings is that pants can rub on them and get caught on them, which can make them hard to heal and can make them more likely to reject. Once the piecings are healed, the won’t be as easily irritated by clothing, but you will still need to be aware of them to avoid snagging them. A hard enough snag, even on a healed piercing, can lead to irritation and rejection.
When it comes to taking the piercings out, you typically will need to see an experienced piercer to have that done. Some people are able to change the ends themselves, but most people don’t have good success trying to remove the jewelry by themselves.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:48 pm
Nick: When you get piercings (of any kind) done on both sides of your body, one is often more red than the other because one side of your body tends to take more abuse than the other. That can be from sleeping, seat belts, the way clothing fits etc. As for one seeming more “relaxed”, that’s not something we can really say much about without seeing the piercing. It could be totally normal, or it could be indicative of a problem. If you’re still concerned about it, consulting with your piercer is probably the best option.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 23, 2012 @ 4:50 pm
Sara: It sounds like one piercing was not done as deep as the other. Whether it was done “deep enough” we can’t really say without seeing the piercing. But, generally speaking, there shouldn’t be much, if any, of the post of the jewelry showing when the piercing is done. If you haven’t already, we would suggest having your piercer take a look at and see what the think. If the jewelry has been like that from the beginning, chances are good they should be willing to re-do it for free.
Re-doing it is the only way to get it sit more flush with the skin.
Best of luck!
Taylorr said,
January 23, 2012 @ 7:13 pm
I’ve been thinking about getting my Madison dermal done for my 18th birthday this Friday, but I’m extremely nervous due to past piercings. I have angel bites (done at separate times.) The right side built up scar tissue around the back of the lip ring, but the left side built up very very little. I had my naval done once, but it got infected.
So, would getting my Madison be a good idea since I’m prone to building scar tissue and metal irritation?
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 25, 2012 @ 10:45 pm
Taylorr: It’s hard to say whether you would experience similar problems with a microdermal piercing, as they are quite a bit different than the other piercings you have had. However, we have seen people have really good success with microdermals who haven’t had good success with other piercings, and we have seen people who had good success with other piercings not have good success with microdermals. There are just too man factors to draw any conclusions one way or the other.
As for metal sensitivities, we would suggest you get the piercing done with a titanium jewelry. A large portion of the microdermal jewelry out there is made from titanium, but not all of it. You would have to ask your piercer about the jewelry they use.
If you decide to get done it, good luck…and have a great birthday!
cris said,
January 26, 2012 @ 3:13 am
I have a pink flower tattoo on the side of my face just above my eye area and think that a dermal in the center would be lovely. However I have heard tales if dermals migrating and am concerned it wont stay in the center of the flower. Would this also be an issue for weight gain or loss?
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 26, 2012 @ 11:54 am
Cris: Anytime you are thinking of incorporating a microdermal piercing in to a tattoo, you definitely have to consider the possibility of migration and/or rejection. Full rejection is probably more of a concern than migration. Usually, with microdermals, the piercing is likely to migrate just a little bit and then be fine. Usually if they start to migrate, it eventually leads to full rejection. There are always exceptions of course, but that’s generally how it happens.
So, the the thing you want to be most comfortable with is the idea that there may be a scar in the middle of the tattoo if you end up removing the jewelry at some point in the future. It won’t typically be a large scar, and it can probably be tattooed over at some point, but there will almost certainly be some type of scarring.
orlena said,
January 26, 2012 @ 2:35 pm
I just had my microdermal piercing done on my collar bone ytd, when I removed the dressing today, i realised the gem looks slightly tilted when looking from the front. what should I do? is the piercer able to take it off and redo it again? thanks
Emma said,
January 26, 2012 @ 5:54 pm
so i want to get my back dimples pierced and im assuming your piercers are experienced enough and have a good rep for those..right? and also if they do end up rejecting would one of your piercers be experienced enough to remove it and would i be charged for that?
cris said,
January 26, 2012 @ 6:15 pm
your awesome. thanks for taking the time to address our concerns.
Saint Sabrina's said,
January 27, 2012 @ 1:54 pm
Emma: All our piercers have a lot of experience with microdermal piercings in all sorts of placements, including a back-dimple placement. We have good success with microdermal piercings, but part of the reason we wrote this blog was to make sure our clients (and others) had a good understanding of the potential issues that can arise with microdermal piercings, even when executed properly. We also have extensive experiencing in removing microdermal piercings as well. There is usually a removal fee of $10 (total, not per piercing) to remove them.
Hopefully this helps! Let us know if you have any other questions.
alhfkafh said,
January 27, 2012 @ 6:43 pm
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Sara said,
January 30, 2012 @ 6:43 pm
Hi, I’ve had my dermal anchor for about six weeks and the skin around it has gone a pink/purple colour and really dry, Is there anything I can do to make it look a but less ugly! Haha
Allison said,
February 1, 2012 @ 6:47 pm
Just be very careful with these. i had them done twice already. the first time, i was at a party and they got ripped straight out. second time, my left hip dermal actually went UNDER my skin. i had to go to the ER & get it cut out. I had a mini surgery, and was out of work for a whole week!!
Saint Sabrina's said,
February 1, 2012 @ 7:02 pm
Sara: This is a situation where it’s best that you go see your piercer. There may be nothing to worry about and/or it may be an easy “fix”, but that isn’t something we can really help you with without being able to see your piercing. Best of luck!
Saint Sabrina's said,
February 1, 2012 @ 7:05 pm
Allison: It’s important to be careful with any piercing, obviously, and especially with microdermals. Due to their nature, they often don’t tolerate abuse very well. It’s also important to seek out the help/advice of your piercer as soon as you are starting to have problems with your piercing. While possible, very few microdermals go from being totally fine to completely embedded under the skin overnight. By visiting an experienced piercer sooner, rather than later, you probably could have saved yourself the pain and expense of a trip to the ER.
alyk said,
February 5, 2012 @ 11:37 am
I had 10 done in my back as a star back, taking up a quarter of my back, in 2008. Sadly, one rejected around November, and I am now rejecting a second one. The scarring isn’t bad, a little purpleish dot that is continually fading, I think its more that I’m losing one of my favorite piercings, one at a time. No need to dwell though, I’m going to end up getting a tattoo done through the scars stating “Time heals all wounds”, since the piercing originally was a memory piece. I absolutely love microdermals, and appreciate that there are websites out here (like yours) to inform people about things that they don’t usually think about when getting pierced (EMT, MRIs, all that jazz…oh and I freaked out a Dr. once when he went to check my lungs…but my piercing is kind of hard to miss so…)
overall, great blog, glad ya’ll are back in the biz of microdermals, and wish you the best of luck!
christina said,
February 9, 2012 @ 2:03 pm
i got a dermal next to my eye about 2 months ago and i love it! but it’s starting to swell up a bit and it kind of looks crooked, like the post on the top is crooked or something. anyone have any advise of what to do about this?
Donna said,
February 19, 2012 @ 11:08 am
Just wanted to thank you so very much for this article! It is awesome. I am on my third dermal anchor and hopefully this one doesn’t reject. It was my own fault that the first two did. But again…Thank you!